tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738485353871431380.post1754642601360726630..comments2024-03-23T13:15:48.445-07:00Comments on Crystal Prison Zone: I Was Wrong!Joehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10825531253125205466noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738485353871431380.post-90631230774452680552016-09-27T15:32:15.348-07:002016-09-27T15:32:15.348-07:00To me the most telling piece is "We needed so...To me the most telling piece is "We needed some kind of effect to publish". It isn't necessarily that you wanted an effect to publish but that journals wanted you to have an effect to publish. By and large, journals still require this. Even as a "new" researcher (a few years into PhD), I have had some papers declined on the basis of "your effects are all null, we see nothing publishable here". If journals don't change their ways, our ways cannot change. We still need incomes and frankly, if we have to shake our data a bit to get one, so be it. Let us publish null results if the methodology is sound, or don't complain about QRP's. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738485353871431380.post-80989765988771530962016-09-27T11:38:46.335-07:002016-09-27T11:38:46.335-07:00Why don't you trust PROCESS? Or you don't ...Why don't you trust PROCESS? Or you don't trust the PROCESS :)?Ignazio Zianonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738485353871431380.post-26503839673472310782016-03-27T21:07:13.535-07:002016-03-27T21:07:13.535-07:00Very interesting. Thanks so much for sharing this ...Very interesting. Thanks so much for sharing this info. Rodney Ohebsionhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14880552377019971742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738485353871431380.post-61945074030335311632016-03-24T21:27:01.849-07:002016-03-24T21:27:01.849-07:00Translation:
"I realize that my admission w...Translation: <br /><br />"I realize that my admission will result in no one citing my paper, even though no one will cite it anyway once all this ego depletion stuff is revealed as bullshit. However, I can still use this to my advantage. If I admit to doing some slightly improper behavior that everyone else does but won't admit, engage in some self-castigation, and then give us all the moral lesson that comes out of it, I can get some public sympathy. Fame level +5."<br /><br />GamingLiferhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02195336931104729563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738485353871431380.post-14392306431203214022016-03-23T06:50:23.674-07:002016-03-23T06:50:23.674-07:00Someone asked me this on Facebook yesterday, too. ...Someone asked me this on Facebook yesterday, too. Here's my reply:<br /><br />I don't think retraction is at all appropriate in our case because the exploratory finding is clearly labeled as exploratory. I don't think that exploratory or implausible results should be expunged from the literature. (Talk about your publication bias!)<br /><br />I do think it's important that everything be reported to give the reader the fullest sense of the strength of the evidence, and I think we were very direct about that. The exact p-value is reported (p = .0502, not rounded down to "significant, p = .05"), and the presented model is clearly labeled "exploratory." It's not a biased summary of our evidence, even if the conclusions we drew from that evidence may be wrong.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10825531253125205466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738485353871431380.post-16501166383670814472016-03-23T05:54:30.248-07:002016-03-23T05:54:30.248-07:00If you now think the result is wrong, and if you d...If you now think the result is wrong, and if you don't think that people should cite it, have you given any thought to retracting the article?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738485353871431380.post-89874122355124474592016-03-21T06:37:33.828-07:002016-03-21T06:37:33.828-07:00That's very kind of you to say, but there'...That's very kind of you to say, but there's really very little to it. We managed to squeeze out a paper on a thin, exploratory finding. Now, thanks to the ego depletion RRR, we know that our finding is more likely to be a false positive. <br /><br />Rather than try to defend the finding to the death, I think it's more sensible (and more easy!) just to let it go. It was a speculative finding based on some post-hoc rummaging. It's beyond me why some researchers will think this kind of flimsy exploratory result is worth defending to the death -- it's just not my style.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10825531253125205466noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-738485353871431380.post-57311723289392398172016-03-20T16:08:30.206-07:002016-03-20T16:08:30.206-07:00Joe,
Just a quick note to say that there is somet...Joe,<br /><br />Just a quick note to say that there is something truly inspiring about this post. I really admire you for doing this.Joshua Knobehttp://campuspress.yale.edu/joshuaknobenoreply@blogger.com